Comments on: Is Rogue Anti-Virus Malicious or Should We Just Ignore Them http://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/ Antivirus Reviews For 2011 / 2012, Tools and How To's Mon, 21 May 2012 21:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mikehttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-6883 Mike Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:21:22 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-6883 Hmm? You guys can be at 99% if you want, but I've never seen anything get past Sandboxie, let alone thru my Kaspersky, Defense+, Threatfire, S&D All of my on-demand scanners, MBAM Pro, PeerBlock, etc. If any malware gets past all of this shit they can just have my identity, because I will have died from shock. Hmm? You guys can be at 99% if you want, but I’ve never seen anything get past Sandboxie, let alone thru my Kaspersky, Defense+, Threatfire, S&D All of my on-demand scanners, MBAM Pro, PeerBlock, etc. If any malware gets past all of this shit they can just have my identity, because I will have died from shock.

]]> By: Johnnyhttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5537 Johnny Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:15:21 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5537 Whilst users like us try to take our security more seriously, so many people just don't and I hate to say this, but these kinds of people tend to be in the majority. I've fixed a number Virus infected laptops for my friends. All they want to do is go on facebook or what ever else they do, but they just don't understand the risks and when I try to explain things to them they go cross eyed at me. I had one almost fool for one of these rogue applications. Whilst users like us try to take our security more seriously, so many people just don’t and I hate to say this, but these kinds of people tend to be in the majority. I’ve fixed a number Virus infected laptops for my friends. All they want to do is go on facebook or what ever else they do, but they just don’t understand the risks and when I try to explain things to them they go cross eyed at me. I had one almost fool for one of these rogue applications.

]]> By: ssj100http://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5533 ssj100 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:55:50 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5533 bo.elam, just curious as to what malware has escaped the sandbox genuinely? Keep in mind that most of the reported "bypasses" of Sandboxie have been proved WRONG (usually either due to the user not realising what has actually happened, or due to the user not using Sandboxie correctly). And as far as I know, there have been no genuine "bypasses" when Sandboxie's start/run/internet access restrictions are in place. bo.elam, just curious as to what malware has escaped the sandbox genuinely? Keep in mind that most of the reported “bypasses” of Sandboxie have been proved WRONG (usually either due to the user not realising what has actually happened, or due to the user not using Sandboxie correctly). And as far as I know, there have been no genuine “bypasses” when Sandboxie’s start/run/internet access restrictions are in place.

]]> By: Raygenhttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5531 Raygen Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:26:48 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5531 Rogues are an interesting breed, and to be honest I don't think they can be detected or stopped consistently in their current form until the inherent problems in the Windows architecture is addressed.i mean look at how many versions of Vundo is around...that darn thing is still infecting folks and new versions come out every day..it never ends..I think the only way to prevent these rogues is for Windows to sand box the browser inside of a virtual machine using Intel and AMD virtualization extensions built into modern day processors..even though that may not be the answer either.I think MalwareBytes does so well because its an app that is dedicated to detecting only rogues and spyware, it doesn't fare too well against polymorphic worms and viruses, again that's not what MalwareBytes was designed for though.Anti-Virus vendor have a tough time with Viruses alone, and i think spyware protection is better served with a 3rd party app,(super AntiSpyware) same with general malware.(MalwareBytes) to supplement your AV application be it Avast, Norton, etc... Rogues are an interesting breed, and to be honest I don’t think they can be detected or stopped consistently in their current form until the inherent problems in the Windows architecture is addressed.

i mean look at how many versions of Vundo is around…that darn thing is still infecting folks and new versions come out every day..it never ends..

I think the only way to prevent these rogues is for Windows to sand box the browser inside of a virtual machine using Intel and AMD virtualization extensions built into modern day processors..even though that may not be the answer either.

I think MalwareBytes does so well because its an app that is dedicated to detecting only rogues and spyware, it doesn’t fare too well against polymorphic worms and viruses, again that’s not what MalwareBytes was designed for though.

Anti-Virus vendor have a tough time with Viruses alone, and i think spyware protection is better served with a 3rd party app,(super AntiSpyware) same with general malware.(MalwareBytes) to supplement your AV application be it Avast, Norton, etc…

]]> By: Dieselmanhttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5525 Dieselman Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:48:11 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5525 Too much doesn't mean your better protected. There is such a thing called overlapping security. All I need is KIS 2010 and common sense. Too much doesn’t mean your better protected. There is such a thing called overlapping security. All I need is KIS 2010 and common sense.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5524 Anonymous Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:55:02 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5524 Considering how malware is advancing nowadays, being a "security freak" and having a ton of protection on the computer is better than having little protection. Considering how malware is advancing nowadays, being a “security freak” and having a ton of protection on the computer is better than having little protection.

]]> By: ssj100http://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5522 ssj100 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:40:11 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5522 Hey Dieselman, yes I agree with you to an extent regarding Wilders, but it's quite entertaining reading the forum from time to time!Not sure what happened to my previous posts, but I was stating again why LUA etc is so beneficial. Here's what Microsoft themselves say:http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb456992.aspx#EGAAAnd here's an excellent post about it also: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1533486&postcount=5Anyway, seems like you're not allowing this to go through. Clearly I have done something wrong. I would appreciate it if you could tell me what I did wrong. Thanks for your time. Hey Dieselman, yes I agree with you to an extent regarding Wilders, but it’s quite entertaining reading the forum from time to time!

Not sure what happened to my previous posts, but I was stating again why LUA etc is so beneficial. Here’s what Microsoft themselves say:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb456992.aspx#EGAA

And here’s an excellent post about it also:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1533486&postcount=5

Anyway, seems like you’re not allowing this to go through. Clearly I have done something wrong. I would appreciate it if you could tell me what I did wrong. Thanks for your time.

]]> By: Dieselmanhttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5519 Dieselman Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:58:33 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5519 No I did not forget it. Either way Wilders is a bunch of security freak. Why dont they just not bother turning there pc's on. No I did not forget it. Either way Wilders is a bunch of security freak. Why dont they just not bother turning there pc’s on.

]]> By: Johanhttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5517 Johan Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:45:51 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5517 HAHA WOW Dieselman!!!!So what you are saying is, that people should stay away from Wilders ONLY because SOME of the posters/readers changes their setup everyday? That's just a stupid acclaim, for one I don't change my setup everyday :)What about the content/information that is available at Wilders did you forget about that as well? HAHA WOW Dieselman!!!!

So what you are saying is,
that people should stay away from Wilders ONLY because SOME of the posters/readers changes their setup everyday?
That’s just a stupid acclaim, for one I don’t change my setup everyday :)

What about the content/information that is available at Wilders did you forget about that as well?

]]> By: Dieselmanhttp://remove-malware.com/antimalware/rogue-anti-malware/is-rogue-anti-virus-malicious-or-should-we-just-ignore-them/#comment-5512 Dieselman Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:30:59 +0000 http://remove-malware.com/?p=1978#comment-5512 OMG. I should have known where I know you from. Wilders is a bunch of security freaks. People over at Wilders change there set up ever day. Stay away from Wilders unless you want to put a padlock on your pc. OMG. I should have known where I know you from. Wilders is a bunch of security freaks. People over at Wilders change there set up ever day. Stay away from Wilders unless you want to put a padlock on your pc.

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