Comodo VS. Symantec – Is Free Enough?

Somebody left a comment on my FAQ page and I thought it was pretty good…check it out!

Hey Matt, was wondering what your thoughts on this was? perhaps you could take on this task?

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24816361-Challenge-to-Symantec-from-Comodo-Super-Hero-Melih

Thesis David Hall, a product manager at Symantec: “If you are only relying on free anti-virus in this modern age, you are not getting the protection you need to be able to stay clean and have a reasonable chance of avoiding identity theft … free anti-virus is not enough: you need in-depth layered technologies, which only come from the more mature paid suites.”

Reaction Melih, Comodo’s invincible ultra super hero:

“I read what Symantec have said about Free Anti Virus products. This kind of misinformation is just unacceptable from companies like Symantec! Enough is Enough..You can’t mislead end users with blatant lies like this!

If Symantec truly believes what they preach to the media then they will have no problem taking this challenge:

To Symantec: Comodo openly challenges you to an independent test to see which product can protect users better. A $$$ Norton product or totally Free Comodo!

Just let us know. Our respective companies will choose a mutually agreeable independent testing organisation to test which product can “Protect” the end user better.

Eagerly awaiting your answer.

Melih

CEO

COMODO”

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75 Responses to Comodo VS. Symantec – Is Free Enough?

  1. Rob September 20, 2010 at 7:29 pm #

    Go Comodo!

  2. malwarekilla September 20, 2010 at 8:06 pm #

    Sounds like a good challenge. Unless Symantec really has something amazing (maybe new concept) I can’t see how it’s any better at all.

  3. Michael Seegmiller September 20, 2010 at 8:26 pm #

    @Matt
    @Rob

    Go Comodo! the fact of the matter is Symantec’s popularity has gone down and the reason is because their products are not that effective in combating the latest malware’s out there.up to this date i kept on wondering how Comodo can give their top notch products to the public for free! but what the heck it is the most effective anti malware program i had ever used and it is free. i will still bet my money on Comodo because at the end of the day i know that Comodo will beat Symantec’s products if they do a test challenge on which of them will do a better job protecting computers..GO!!!!COMODO!!!GO…

  4. Michael Seegmiller September 20, 2010 at 8:29 pm #

    @Melih
    Comodo CEO,

    Comodo Internet Security is the best! bar none. let the challenge begin…. Comodo user forever!

  5. Jonathan September 20, 2010 at 8:30 pm #

    @malwarekilla: from watching Langy99’s review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sN7ISKNeGM and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj3KgcIhtdg) of the latest version of Comodo he states that Comodo have something new being released soon.

  6. Ron September 20, 2010 at 10:41 pm #

    I dont use comodo, but seriously, wtf symantec? Just cause your products suck doesnt mean you have to pass around bs lies.

  7. Ringman September 21, 2010 at 4:08 am #

    +1 for Comodo.

  8. Aaron September 21, 2010 at 12:35 pm #

    Yeah, I would choose Comodo too. (Actually i use the version 5 , just amazing )
    BUT , let me remind you :
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftzvWcW1OiY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJuLCEsLoBY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmj2ONGdfA

  9. mokito September 21, 2010 at 4:26 pm #

    @ Aaron

    geraner didn’t have much information on how to work with comodo suite. i’ve watched thoses reviews and he as always talking about symantec doing the blocking for the user and comodo didin’t. thats becaus comodos default config doesn’t have the autmatic quarantine option enable from stock. i belive that choise is for the user to now that the suite is working and blocking. if you check that option, you won’t get any notification from comodo (norton’s give you a pop-up)

    i’m not taking sides, never used norton (have tested symantec endpoint), but my XP PC was comodo on it because i download a lot from torrent sites.. and that could be tricky :p

  10. Christos September 21, 2010 at 4:45 pm #

    I would actually go with Symantec instead of COMODO, because actually the AV part of COMODO has gone downhill and detects nothing, so it’s up to the user to answer the Defense+ alerts. A noob user would get confused from the 1st day of using COMODO and he/she would complain about all these popups. Changing the settings in COMODO to make the alerts less would expose the computer to risk. Symantec on the other side with their 2011 version of their products they make a big difference. Much easier to use much lighter much better at detecting than previous versions. Also, because a lot of people are going to say this, I am NOT a fun or a user of Symantec, I judge from my personal tests and experiences. I never relied on any other person (unless than Matt which is a great and fair reviewer) to get my antivirus package than me.

  11. Michael Seegmiller September 21, 2010 at 5:42 pm #

    @Christos

    Have you seen the video review of Matt on Comodo 4.0? you should see it and then see for yourself how good it is. although Matt hasn’t done a review yet on the latest version of Comodo 5.0 you can see in Comodo 4.0 on how many malware’s it detected…out of 10 malwares that Matt threw on it. it detected and clean all 10 of them. now you mentioned how difficult it is for an average person to deal with all the pop ups from Comodo once you installed it well you just need to follow thru with the whole process because that is how their programs work and once the program learned all the programs and environment of your system the pop ups will be lessen or none at all. well, i am a comodo user for 3 1/2 yrs now and since then i had not been infected with anything. i am very pleased with comodo and will continue to use their excellent protection products. like Matt said there are no absolete anti virus out there paid or free ones. we just need to use what really works in our individual needs and products experiences.

  12. Christos September 21, 2010 at 5:47 pm #

    @Michael Seegmiller Matt did this review a while ago. You see the AV part (the detection part) now detects nothing. I know that COMODO has a learning mode, but still the 1st time users run apps it will be hard for them. How are you sure that you are not infected? because COMODO detects nothing in your system? Have you scanned with Malwarebytes? Have you scanned with SuperAntiSpyware? Have you scanned with Hitman Pro and a few more questions:
    What do you download?
    How do you use the internet?
    Are you a heavy internet user?
    It depends on you. From what I can see your are good with pcs and you can easily answer COMODO alerts, but I will give you an example:
    My aunt, she just learned how to send an e-mail
    Now tell me, how do you think she would react to this?
    blabla.exe is trying to Modify Windows hooks. Cancel or allow?
    blabla.exe is trying to connect to the internet. IP 182.51.26.27 Cancel or Allow?

    You see COMODO is simply too complicated for noobs.

  13. Michael Seegmiller September 21, 2010 at 7:09 pm #

    @Christos

    Yes, i am also using Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware as an added arsenal it wont hurt to have additional protections.i scanned my system with these programs at least 2 times a week and it did not find anything. i am only an average user i don’t download that much and i use plain common sense when browsing the internet. as for me i will continue on with Comodo i am very satisfied with their products and i agree that perhaps Comodo is somewhat complicated to deal with for some but as for me i learned to deal with it.

  14. Michael Seegmiller September 21, 2010 at 7:15 pm #

    @Christos

    I had also heard that Microsoft Security Essentials 2.0 beta is already available. maybe Microsoft had upgraded their protection modules in this new version you can check it out and give us your input on it.

  15. wirelesspacket September 21, 2010 at 9:58 pm #

    Money makes the world go round. In this day of free alternatives becoming just as good or even better then the paid versions. It causes companies like Symantic to push the panic button. Larger corporations occasionally drop the ball when it comes to protecting their customers.

    I dislike a company who pushes that button to increase its bottom line by raising a threat level or causing customers to become paranoid by releasing a press releases. (Unless the threat is real and relevant) Playing on the consumers fears is wrong. If your software is going to protect me. It must be as good as your making it out to be! The economy is very difficult right now for everyone.I believe all consumers are thinking twice about spending money that they feel will evidently go to waste. It is great to see companies release free alternatives to paid versions. it is even better when the free version does what is advertised.

    Throughout the years many of my friends and family have had issues with their computers. The one vendors software that had been installed on their system was from Symantic. Either Paid or OEM versions of the software. These systems were compromised and required either a clean install of the OS or a major scrubbing of the operating system with numerous anti-malware products. (This had been my experience.) It is not an opinion!

    Being a computer user since 1992 I understand the variables that come into play when a computer becomes infected.

    *You have to contest with the Operating System and vulnerabilities that may be present in the current version of OS being used.
    *Many vulnerabilities may not be patched either by the vendor or the user. (Software updates not being installed for instance.) The vendor in many cases may not even know of the exploit until months after it has been exploited in the wild.
    *3rd Party Software may have security flaws. Many user do not patch software once installed. This leaves software vulnerable.
    *Does the security software on the system protect against the threat. Is it always awake. Has it been updated. Is the system scanned on a regular basis. Has the user disabled the software.

    We can go on and on!

    So I am not picking on Symantic. I understand the wider picture. it has been a very long time since I have come across a computer that had one version of Symantic’s software installed that did not have some sort issue. Again this is my experience. I wish that wasn’t the case!

    I have used products such as Avast, AVG, Panda, and so on! In my opinion Comodo’s Free Antivirus product is very good. I currently use Comodo Antivirus 64-bit version for Windows 7 on my own system. I feel safer because it is installed on my system. I also feel safe because I try to continue my vigilance as a user online. It is always best to try and use common sense when using your computer. It is nice to know that your security software is working just in case “I the USER” is slacking.

    My 2 Cents!

    ~WP

    wirelesspacket [@] gmail dot com

  16. Christos September 22, 2010 at 4:33 am #

    @Michael Seegmiller Now you are speaking right and i will test MSE 2.0 BETA

    btw you can see my other tests
    on my YT Channel (ballader1)

  17. Aaron September 22, 2010 at 8:28 am #

    @Mokito
    I agree!

  18. Ido September 22, 2010 at 10:07 am #

    My recommendation for an amazing, very tight security: Norton AntiVirus + COMODO Firewall. It’s an amazing combination!
    I would usually prefer using Norton than COMODO, because it has a better detection engine and they have a massive detection ratio, which means that it’s much easier to use, but COMODO’s CEO says that the next version of COMODO will have the best detection ratio. I think that both companies are really competing with each other, and the best anti-virus/security suite programs are Norton and COMODO, no longer Kaspersky or ESET, or Avira!

  19. @Ido September 22, 2010 at 1:50 pm #

    Well, Nice compination, PS i would never replace my original copy of kaspersky internet security with Symantec, it just seems that Kaspersky Lab is giving better protection than Symantec. I am really excited about seeing that thing melih (CEO of COMODO) says that will give COMODO 100% detection ratio, btw ESET and Avira are great aswell 😛

  20. Michael Seegmiller September 22, 2010 at 3:38 pm #

    @wirelesspacket,

    I agree with you man! these large companies are on the panic because their are a lot of people now turning to free alternatives that in my opinion do a better job than the paid ones. i used Comodo Internet Security free version for 3 years now and it does protect my system. there are no obsolete programs out there paid or free ones we can’t just rely on a particular product to totally protect us from malwares. it is a combination of safe and common sense usage of the information highway.i am not surprised that most of these large computer security companies are coming out with all of their new security products that is the nature of their business.but for us to rely solely on a particular security products to protect our system is a misguided idea. i mentioned that i used Comodo Internet Security for 3 yrs now but i am not solely relying on it i am using my common sense all the time. the problem these days is that people are on a panic mode base on the mass misinformations being put out by these companies to sell their products.

  21. Christos September 22, 2010 at 6:02 pm #

    @Michael Seegmiller You are talking about common sence which noob users don’t have actually. What the say is “I have anti-virus software installed so I am protected againist everything”… or at least most of them 😛

  22. Michael Seegmiller September 22, 2010 at 6:18 pm #

    @Christos

    Everybody is entitled to their own opinions what works for you may not work for me. that’s the way it goes but if anyone thinks that relying solely on their computer security programs can protect them 100% against malwares they can forget it. there are no obsolete products out there paid or free ones i tried all of them you name it. i am using Comodo because i am more comfortable with it but that does not mean i rely on it totally. i am using good common sense when browsing or downloading from the internet.

  23. Christos September 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm #

    @Michael Seegmiller Well, I get your meaning, but a noob will never do 😉

  24. Michael Seegmiller September 22, 2010 at 6:54 pm #

    @Christos

    Well,not everyone will do get it.

  25. Comodo fanboy September 22, 2010 at 8:33 pm #

    Where is Dieselman? If somebody would have said this in the forum; Sounds like a good challenge. Unless Symantec really has something amazing (maybe new concept) I can’t see how it’s any better at all, dieselman would have called that person a noob and things like that. Im surprsed that he´s not taking part of this discussion at all. Maybe he is afraid of Matt. He knows that matt never reads the forum so he knows he can behave however he wants in there.

  26. ssj100 September 23, 2010 at 9:20 am #

    Comodo has always had the strongest security simply because of Defense+ (the Classical HIPS component). Unfortunately, Classical HIPS can be very “pop-up crazy”. This is why with Comodo version 5, they have made the Defense+ component as quiet as possible by introducing the concept of the Comodo “sandbox” and increasing black-listing capabilities with cloud behaviour-blocking etc.

    Unless Norton develops a Classical HIPS component, they will never come close to providing the (potential) level of protection that Comodo has.

  27. Anakin September 23, 2010 at 10:29 am #

    Are you people crazy? Did you even watch the lasted reviews on CIS? CIS 5 is still CIS 3 with a new GUI. There is still TOO much user interaction needed. NIS can provide just as good of prrotection with NO user interaction. Your average user would have no idea what a “com interface” is or how to answer that alert.

  28. Michael Seegmiller September 23, 2010 at 1:17 pm #

    @ssj100

    I agree, i am a Comodo user for 3 yrs now and this latest version of Comodo 5.0 is the best they had come up with. i heard that they are planning to release another version sometime late this year or early part of next year i can’t wait for that new version.

  29. malwarekilla September 23, 2010 at 8:32 pm #

    All Comodo needs to do is focus on minimizing popups as much as possible (i.e. – learning what’s truly safe and what isn’t and then applying the proper actions).

  30. C, C. September 23, 2010 at 9:46 pm #

    I’m not a user of Symantec/Norton Products and if you really want to see and learn about Symantec’s short comings go to the U. S. Government website and enter Antivirus in the websites search engine and you will see where there has been one issue after the other with Symantec over last several years.

    I’m also not a big fan of Comodo’s or Melih, Comodo’s NOT invincible ultra super hero, but they have released a new version (5.0.162636.1135) of the CIS. New look this time around.

  31. malwarekilla September 23, 2010 at 10:56 pm #

    I’m considering doing default installs of both and seeing:

    A – which one gives me the most protection out of the box (no configuration)

    and

    B – which one doesn’t “nag me” all that much, yet provides the protection I need.

    The video(s) would be released on Saturday since I’m taking off that day.

  32. Anakin September 24, 2010 at 12:45 am #

    If you strictly go on topic “B” NIS wins hands down. Topic “A” both can provide the same protection but where Norton wins is NO user interaction. CIS involves way too much user interaction and when you are relying on the user to do the decision making there is bound to be wrong answers. CAV is very weak in comparison to NAV. To back up NAV there is Sonar and to back up CAV there is D+. But where NIS wins is that its all done “AUTOMATICALLY”. Visit the forums and speak about it. That is what they are for anyways.

  33. malwarekilla September 24, 2010 at 2:39 am #

    @Anakin – probably agreed.

  34. Shaun Zhang September 24, 2010 at 4:05 am #

    If symantec is competing with Comodo, I would choose Comodo.
    Comodo offers protection that others don’t, even the free version of Comodo will beat Symantec, because Comodo doesn’t really miss anything.
    Signature based detection methods with whitelisting good application is better than Signature based detection methods with just heuristic based protection, even the heuristic based protection methods will miss something.
    Symantec doesn’t have technology that Comodo has, such as sandboxing feature to keep unknown applications isolated.
    Symantec will miss something, but Comodo will basically catch everything, as long as Defense + is enabled.

  35. ssj100 September 24, 2010 at 7:10 am #

    @Anakin and @malwarekilla (since you “probably agreed”). The fact that you are (both) even suggesting that NIS can provide just as much protection (potentially) as Comodo likely reflects that you (both) don’t understand what a Classical HIPS is. With Defense+ alone (configured properly and in the right hands), Comodo can pretty much catch “100%” of malware. The same cannot be said of NIS (not until they incorporate a classical HIPS component).

    @Anakin, how can you say that Comodo version 5 is the same as version 3? Have you actually tested out version 3 and then tested out version 5? Version 5 incorporates a sandboxing component as well as a cloud behaviour-blocker (which both markedly reduces the number of pop-ups). Please stop spreading mis-information if possible. Thanks.

    Anyway, here’s a recent test between NIS and CIS:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Iawzo51rsk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFi672R_7F0

    As you can see, CIS did much better than NIS. To be honest, I don’t really see what is so special about NIS. Regardless, Matt, it will be interesting to see whether your tests give similar results.

    Finally, please remember that CIS is completely free for life. NIS is not free, and requires annual fees. Food for thought.

  36. Anakin September 24, 2010 at 9:57 am #

    Comodo will ONLY catch something if the user is smart enough to answer the alert. Of course Comodo catches everything cause it nags the poop out of you.

  37. ssj100 September 24, 2010 at 2:03 pm #

    @Anakin, well that’s why Comodo now have a sandbox component – if you’re not sure about a pop-up, just run it sandboxed (click “Sandbox”). Comodo have really tried to make their suite as user friendly as possible. It’s actually rather amazing how user friendly it is now, considering it contains a Classical HIPS component. They are definitely innovating the meaning of user friendly security software. In this way, they have arguably achieved the best balance between usability and protection.

    Also keep in mind that I don’t currently use any Comodo software. This is because my own security setup/approach is much stronger than CIS (or any other software) ever will be. However, if I had to pick an alternative, I would most likely go with CIS to protect my system.

  38. Anakin September 24, 2010 at 9:02 pm #

    There is no way Comodo is user friendly. 95% of noobs have no idea what a sandbox is never mind how to answer the alert. The sandbox is NOT automatic. CIS needs to be automatic before it can ever be as good as NIS or even KIS.

  39. ssj100 September 24, 2010 at 11:03 pm #

    CIS is continuing to get more and more user friendly. Fact is, you’d only really get pop-ups when you are wanting to install new software. For sure, right now, CIS is not for everyone (particularly absolute “noobs”). However, it is excellent software for people like me and you. Also, it’s completely free, so there’s no harm trying it out to see if it works for you.

    There is a lot of mis-information out there, but thankfully, many people are careful when interpreting content on the internet.

    You write:
    “CIS needs to be automatic before it can ever be as good as NIS or even KIS.”

    Careful interpretation needs to be used here. What exactly is the definition of “as good”? As already proven many times, CIS in the right hands is much more powerful at protecting a system than NIS. languy99 has already shown in those videos that NIS is simply just another “black-listing” tool that will miss a lot of malware.

    Anyway, you might be interested in some of my ramblings here:
    http://ssj100.fullsubject.com/security-f7/what-is-the-actual-risk-of-getting-infected-t54.htm#252

  40. Anakin September 25, 2010 at 12:44 am #

    Comodo fanboy……………Watch what you say. You never know who is listening. D-Man is far from afraid. After it was YOU that was banned for being a noob and breaking rules.

  41. Shaun Zhang September 25, 2010 at 2:29 am #

    Comodo Internet Security 4 has already got the sandbox feature, and as the product improves, the sandbox started to do a lookup before isolating something, that’s why there is a delay of the sandbox.
    Comodo Internet Security 5 is even better, it even include cloud scanner and heuristic cloud scanner, they should be good enough to protect users against new malware, the comodo sandbox is still doing online lookup in version 5, I am afraid, before it isolates unknown applications.

  42. ssj100 September 25, 2010 at 3:26 am #

    @Anakin I’m not sure what you’re referring to with me being “banned for being a noob and breaking rules”. However, you’re the one that’s starting to make comments bordering on personal insults. Please stick to the topic at hand.

    Also, I am not a Comodo fanboy. As I said, I don’t even use any of their software. I am as objective as they come with security software.

  43. Anakin September 25, 2010 at 3:34 am #

    I WAS not talking you. Thats why I said “Comodo Fany”. There is a guy named that who posted. Gezzz. Pay attention to who replies.

  44. Anakin September 25, 2010 at 3:34 am #

    Fanyboy. Typo.

  45. Guess September 26, 2010 at 7:44 am #

    [quote]
    After it was YOU that was banned for being a noob and breaking rules.
    [/quote]

    Interesting approach – ban someone because they are new and don’t know the rules. 😉

  46. Anakin September 26, 2010 at 5:40 pm #

    Rules should be read/followed and understood. Every forum has rules. Your suppose to read the rules when you become a member. Every one knows the rules cause they are posted in every section of the forum. No excuses necessary.

  47. atomomega September 27, 2010 at 3:02 am #

    HEy Matt,
    wassup with the vid’s? You said they would be uploaded by sat. I’m not trying to bug u man… haha… just curious if u actually made the VS vid… maybe u changed ur mind after all… but it’s cool man take ur time!

    cheers!

  48. Anakin September 27, 2010 at 11:55 pm #

    A real test by a non-biased person. Not a one sided test done by a Comodo mod (aka languy99,aka Comodo poster child).

    http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201039/6199/Review-Comodo-Internet-Security-vs-Norton-Internet-Security-2011

  49. ssj100 September 28, 2010 at 4:13 am #

    Even just based on that one test, I personally would not pay for NIS (nor would I ever recommend it, unless the user didn’t care about money). There are just so many great free options out there that probably provide the same or better protection (even for “noob” users).

    Anyway, the developers of Norton, Kaspersky etc need to have food on the table too, so it’s good that people are kindly (and happily) throwing cash at them haha. Not only that, but these people also often try to diminsh other (free) products, indirectly potentially leading to more “food on the table”!

  50. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 4:45 am #

    ssj100………………Better get a better job if money is an issue. You can buy NIS 2010 for $27 off of Amazon then upgrade to NIS 2011 for FREE. You spend more then that a week in food alone.

  51. ssj100 September 28, 2010 at 8:56 am #

    Stop with the belittling tone already haha.

    $27 here, $27 there. It all adds up. If paying money for computer security software gives you happiness/peace of mind etc, then so be it. I’ll be using that $27 for a nice dinner out instead haha.

  52. ssj100 September 28, 2010 at 9:03 am #

    By the way, with regards to that previous review, it’s clear that the reviewers don’t understand the concept of the Comodo sandbox. RejZoR describes it well here:
    http://forums.comodo.com/news-announcements-feedback-cis/cis-does-well-against-nis-t62591.0.html;msg442385#msg442385

  53. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 10:05 am #

    ANY and all comments coming from Comodo are biased. So what you are saying is that languy99,who is only 18, knows more then this older gentleman who wrote the article. Yeah right. Comodo fanboys WILL always argue cause they think they are the best. Wait till the day AV Comparatives tests CAV. Then languy99 and RejZor will say that they also do not know how to test. Whatever.

  54. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 10:07 am #

    BTW……………………..Maybe you should stop buying groceries cause that adds up to. As in matter of fact stop eating cause it costs money.

  55. ssj100 September 28, 2010 at 11:18 am #

    RejZoR is as objective as they come. He is certainly not a Comodo fanboy haha. In fact, from what I’ve read in the past year or so, he has generally been anti-Comodo. He was nearly banned from the forums a couple of weeks ago. He calls it as he sees it – I generally like his views because they are very objective.

    And with your last comment, it really sounds like you’re getting upset. It also sounds like you have something against Comodo. I find it incredible that people can get so emotional sounding over discussing security software. As I said before, it’s whatever makes you happy and/or have peace of mind that counts. No need to go down the “ridiculous comments” pathway haha.

    The way I see it, we’re all in this together and we all have the same goal – we all want to protect our computer systems. We all prefer different programs for different reasons. Careful interpretation of any tests out there is very important. Sometimes we need to look in the mirror when accusing others of being “bias”.

  56. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 11:29 am #

    Upset…………….emotional. Are you for real? Bringing money into this is emotional. The fact that any who argues with Comodo gets banned from there site is a huge factor. Comodo even fires mods for disagreeing. Comodo….lead by Melih is the most unprofessional company alive. So you trust some 18 year olds review? Thats dumb. I guess you think languy99 is God.

  57. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 11:38 am #

    Its pathetic that you think spending $27 on a 1 year/3 user license is too muchy money.

  58. Justin September 28, 2010 at 11:58 am #

    Oh my god, Anakin, Stop being a little bitch and get over it. CIS 5 all the way baby!!! My Mother likes it btw. She dosent even know how to turn a PC on and no complaints yet 😉

  59. ssj100 September 28, 2010 at 12:07 pm #

    I am entitled to my opinion, and you are to yours. However, implying that I am “dumb” and “pathetic” is rude. The readers at remove-malware.com don’t need this. If you want to continue exchanging blows with me, feel free to join my forum haha. Otherwise, let’s keep it civil.

  60. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 12:43 pm #

    I am being civil. But do the members of your forum also complain about spending money on security? I would rather buy NIS then use CIS for free. I am not cheap and NIS is worth every penny.

  61. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 12:53 pm #

    Complaining that NIS costs too much is not an excuse to use it. I would never recommend ANY of my customers to use CIS. The last time I did I was flooded with a milliion phone calls about how to answer all these pop ups and what they mean.

  62. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 1:34 pm #

    Typical Comodo fanboy reply Justin. You fit the build well.

  63. Michael Seegmiller September 28, 2010 at 4:18 pm #

    @ Everyone….. things are getting out of hand lately in this forum! it is getting personal already for some of the folks who are exchanging personal barbs that are out of context on what this forum is all about. please i am asking these folks to act like a responsible and sound minded adults. we all do not need this kind of attitudes for the topic at hand is just about computer security software not about personal stuffs. this is not the place for that! if you want this kind of topics “Twitter or Facebook” perhaps is the place for this kind of conversations.

    Yes, we are all free in this country to give our opinions and input on a variety of issues but there is a proper place and forums on different matters.this forum is solely created by Matt to share his reviews and inputs on different computer security software and its value to the end consumers. so, again i am asking these people to please refrain from nonsense talks and messages please act wisely. if your opinions are not going to be a value to others then this is not the forum for you guys.

  64. ssj100 September 28, 2010 at 6:11 pm #

    Yes Anakin, many members of my forum do not pay for security software. In fact, very few of my friends and colleagues pay for computer security software.

    By the way, when exactly was the last time you recommended CIS to anyone? And when exactly was the last time you tested CIS 5 in detail? Comodo has become much more user friendly. It’s a fact. Their white-list has grown, and the sandbox and cloud analysis engine has markedly reduced pop-ups. There is no disputing this fact.

    It’s not so much that NIS costs money (although in the REAL world, there are indeed many people who hate paying for security software, even if it’s “just” $27 a year), it’s that there are excellent free alternatives out there. For example, Avira and Avast are both excellent free alternatives. Microsoft Security Essentials is pretty decent for free. CIS 5 is also completely free and provides near-100% zero-day protection in the right hands. In the “average user’s” hands, Comodo are making it more and more user friendly. To be honest, I personally think that CIS has become too bloated (I liked it better when it was just Defense+ doing all the talking and not a sandbox, antivirus or behaviour-blocker). But that’s just my opinion. For millions of users out there, CIS 5 works very well for them.

  65. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 7:36 pm #

    I dont need to try CIS 5. The proof of the pop ups is in languy99’s videos. Nothing has changed. No noob is going to know what a “com interface” means. I like how you said “in the right hands”. Thats the point your missing. CIS 5 may be free but its only effective if your knowledgeable enough to answer the pop ups.

  66. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 7:51 pm #

    Your also missing the point of security. You should not need a degree to understand pop ups. You should not need to babysit your security. Your security should not bug you. All its needs to do is work without bugging you. Thats what customers want.

  67. Carlos Rodriguez September 28, 2010 at 7:54 pm #

    SSJ100, Have you heard or read about the paradox :”What happens when an irresistible force meets an immovable object?” ……If you haven’t, you have a typical situation like that here. Anakin is so obsessed and so stubborn that NOT MATTER what you post here he’s NOT going to change. He has a prejudice against Comodo that not matter how much it might have improved over the years he’s not going to use it. PERIOD. Therefore, you are wasting your precious time here. Just a thought. By the way, I am NOT a Comodo user. I run ESET NOD32 v.4.2.64.12 on all my PCs at home and the Windows Firewall (Windows 7 Pro).

  68. Anakin September 28, 2010 at 9:17 pm #

    Not true Carlos. I used Comodo back in the 2.4 firewall days. Then I used Comodo 3.0 firewall. Then when CIS 3.0 was released I used that. But I got sick and tired of the pop ups and the same old thing. I even tried CIS 4.0. Same thing. If Comodo would listen to the users and make CIS automatic then I would use it and recommend it. The biggest draw back to CIS is it involves way too much user interaction. If CIS could do what NIS does automatically then that would be a great suite. I am speaking “out of the box”. NIS is a complete “install it and 4 get it”. That is not true for CIS.

  69. ssj100 September 29, 2010 at 4:04 am #

    The way I see it, we’re not really disagreeing with each other. It’s clear that Anakin “prefers” NIS over CIS. However, there are millions of people out there who “prefer” CIS over NIS. If I personally had to pick between CIS and NIS, I would choose CIS, simply because it gives me more control over my system. Obviously, Anakin would pick NIS, simply because it doesn’t give as many pop ups.

    However, keep in mind that languy99’s videos show many pop-ups because he’s testing CIS against (malware) executables. The average user would not be installing executables that often (and certainly not malware executables). Therefore CIS would give very few pop-ups from day to day use. I repeat, with version 5, Comodo have significantly reduced the number of pop-ups for everyday use. You don’t need to be a “rocket scientist” or “brain surgeon” to work out the reasons – it’s because Comodo have dramatically increased their white-list database and also implemented new technology like the sandbox and cloud behaviour-blocker.

    Also keep in mind that the reason for CIS potentially giving out so many pop-ups is because it literally “detects” every significant change on your system. So if for example, something unknown tries to execute, it will give a pop-up. Or if something tries to log your key-strokes, it will give a pop-up. This is simply the nature of the Classical HIPS (Defense+ in this case). Comodo has got to be the first security company to make a Classical HIPS as quiet as possible by implementing sandbox technology and focussing hard on increasing the white-list database. Out of all Classical HIPS containing software, Comodo has got to be the most user friendly now. That is very innovative of Comodo, in my opinion. And it’s simply incredible that they are providing such quality software free for life.

    Comodo will also appeal to more advanced users who enjoy configuring a Classical HIPS and having full control over their system. These type of users would most likely disable the Antivirus and Sandbox component.

  70. Justin September 30, 2010 at 9:09 am #

    I would just like to apologize for my previous post… Had a bad day. Anyway, we are all entitled to our opinions. Some like NIS. Some like CIS.

    IMO, both are great products.

  71. ian cowen October 4, 2010 at 8:59 am #

    i recently was running eset smart security 4.2 on all my PCs , i had zeus trojan go through without detection although in vmware . i uploaded the file to virus total with suprising results. comodo caught it i”m now ruunning comodo internet security 5 on all my computers. seen sum reviews on comodo 5 seem great and it”s FREE.

  72. Anakin October 5, 2010 at 6:11 pm #

    You have seen “Some reviews”. Not sum. Thats an addition problem…………..lol.

  73. ian cowen October 8, 2010 at 7:20 am #

    thanks for the grammar correction Anakin. next time you make a mistake i will correct you . MEAT HEAD.

  74. Mark October 22, 2010 at 12:31 am #

    Comodo>Symantec if you are looking to proactively defend yourself
    Symantec<Comodo if you are looking to clean a computer

    Symantec probably has better virus definitions than Comodo so it is probably better at finding malware on an infected system (although if you can actually get comodo installed then the malware is helpless and it becomes a matter of finding it which is a pain)

    Comodo firewall allows items on its whitelist and blocks everything else. You might see some unnecessary popups on Comodo but you aren't going to see any false negatives. The same cannot be said for Symantec because that would annoy customers.

    Claiming that Symantec makes you more safe than Comodo is like saying that Adblock Plus makes you more safe than NoScript. Its really a no contest. While Adblock Plus has an impressive blacklist, NoScript places everything on the blacklist unless it is on the whitelist.

    Just to put it out there: I use CIS, Avast Free, NoScript, and AdBlockPlus (I'll probably switch to chrome soon because it has better sandbox technology and a noscript clone has been released for it)

  75. Mark October 22, 2010 at 12:34 am #

    Comodo also has very impressive kernel level drivers to protect your computer. These work quite well even if Comodo is not running (this was a pain to figure out initially though lol)

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